I love making jams and marmalades. For me it’s the perfect way to preserve the season. Vanilla Plum Jam- a gentle reminder of hot summer days in a jar, when eaten in the cool of winter. Tarty Citrus Marmalade- Autumn love and enjoyed every week of the year on my sourdough toast.
I started making jam and marmalades back when I was a teenager. I’d watched my mum do it countless times and just learnt by watching. A couple of decades on and I still happily make my preserves although I’m not particularly good at why I do certain things, I just do.
For this reason I thought I would do a Q and A on jam making, with the ever knowledgable Mariana from Thru My Kitchen Window. Mariana’s pantry is the kind of pantry I would quite happily raid any night of the week. Those darkened shelves, I know would be lined full of beautifully made preserves. Made with a basket full of love and knowledge, (which is a pretty awesome combination when it comes to cooking.)
Jammin’ with Mariana @ Thru My Kitchen Window
Q: What is the best kind of fruit to jam and do I use over ripe, or under ripe fruit?
A: Fruits that grow successfully or are native to the area where you live. Apples would be an exception; for example I live in SE Qld and I source my apples at the local farmers market. The apple growers are from Stanthorpe (over two hundred kms away) and I know the apples were picked up to three days before market. Under ripe or close to just being ripe are the best fruit to use in jamming.
Q: What is pectin, why do I need it and which fruit has the most? Can I use that packet stuff that says Jam Setter?
A: Pectin can be a hard thing to understand until you’ve worked with quite a number of fruits; at least it was for me. I would describe pectin as a ‘gummy-like substance’ that oozes from the fruit while it’s simmering. Adding lemon juice to simmering fruit helps to further release the pectin. Pectin levels are different in every fruit, eg; apples are high; strawberries are low. Preserve books generally contain information about the pectin levels in most fruits; consult them or the net and use as a guide to help you achieve the best setting. It’s worth noting that once you add the sugar to the fruit you are no longer enabling the pectin to release; so do not add sugar until you’re happy with the softness or firmness of the fruit. You may think the rind in your marmalade is very soft, but once the sugar is added it actually assists in toughening the skin, so don’t be afraid to cook down fruit with rind, unless of course you like a firm rind. The sugar will cook with the available pectin to form a gel or set; you may need to persist a few times till you get the setting right. Don’t give up, it’s all learning.
I’ve made and used my own liquid pectin stock. It’s very good; but some of the gels have been too firm so in future I’d only use it with poorer pectin fruits if at all.
I don’t use packet jam setter so I can’t comment on that one. I’ve heard that these setting agents can reduce the intensity of the flavour in the fruit. However if you’re new to jam-making then anything that will help to boost your confidence in setting the jam can’t be such a bad thing.
Q. How long do I cook it for? Is timing the same for every fruit or does it vary?
A. Cooking times for jams all vary, for example strawberry jam could take 5mins to simmer and another 5 or 10mins for setting, whilst for strawberry and apple jam, simmering could take 20mins till the apples are soft and up to another 20mins till it jells. It’s all approximate unfortunately as so many factors depend on the condition of the fruit. For instance if you use overripe strawberries you’ll most likely end up with a strawberry sauce with very little chance of setting. Unblemished, just-ripe strawberries will in the same cooking time will give you a much better jam result.
Q.What’s the saucer test, and how do I know when it’s ready? Also, I’ve heard about jam getting wrinkly, what does that mean?
A. I used to do the saucer test. Basically it’s to test how well the jam is jelling. Place a teaspoon of the jam onto a chilled saucer that’s been in the fridge. Allow a couple of minutes to cool. Then with your finger gently push the jam from one side to see if it ‘wrinkles’. If it does then your jam has reached setting point; cease any further cooking. If it doesn’t wrinkle then presumably it needs more cooking.
These days I use my wooden spoon to determine the setting of my jam, jelly or marmalade. Dip the spoon into the centre of the saucepan and slowly lift the spoon well above the pot. Tilt and watch how the liquid drips back into the mixture. If it runs off quickly, then keep cooking. When a setting point is reached, the jam should fall off the spoon in small clumpy teardrops . I much prefer using this method than the saucer test but it does take practise to recognise the signs.
Q.Skimming scum off the top doesn’t sound very pleasant, do I need to do that?
A. Yes. It’s unavoidable that some impurities will rise to the top as it should. This is a good thing. Take a metal spoon and skim away from the sides. Don’t attempt to skim from the centre of the pot; you’ll scald yourself. With some fruits there’ll be lots of scum while hardly any with others. Generally cooking the whole fruit albeit chopped, will produce greater scum. This is usually the case for jelly-making, and even more important to remove because jellies can be quite transparent and therefore the clarity depends on how well you skim the scum away during cooking.
Q. How to sterilise your jars and do I really need to? There seem to be so many different methods to do this?
A. Consult ‘canning books’ or simply ‘google’ to see recommendations on how best to sterilize. I always wash the jars and lids together in hot soapy water; rinse in boiling water, sit on a rack that’s also been placed in hot water. Arrange the jars on a baking tray bottom side down and place into a preheated conventional oven at about 80degrees; leave while the jam is cooking. Don’t put the lids in the oven till five minutes before the jam is ready. Your jars and lids should be quite ‘hottish’ just before filling. Once you’ve filled your jars, seal immediately. Place the jars side by side in a high sided tin or tray. Cover with a tea towel to help cool down slowly. I’ve yet to encounter a problem doing it this way. I read that filled jars should be reboiled for ten minutes, but I find it all so tedious and an extra step in what can already be quite an arduous task.
Q. How long does the jam keep for?
A.The greater the sugar content the longer the keeping time. If you use one cup sugar to one cup of fruit then easily a year and even up to two years. You may get some discolouration of the jam as it tends to darken a little the older it is. These days I prefer to use a ratio of between sixty or seventy five percent sugar to the fruit. In this case it’s best to use the jam between six months and up to a year. At least that’s my experience.
Q. If I have never made jam before, what might be an easy fruit to start with?
A.Choose a fruit that’s in season, one with reasonable pectin levels. Add some Granny Smith Apples – this will improve your chances for a really good set – and help your confidence for the next jam-making session. If you want to be really adventurous, go for making marmalade. You’ll have extra work with finely shredding rind, but your chances for a good setting will be excellent as citrus have high levels of pectin.
Q. And lastly, what’s your favourite jam?
A. I love a really good orange marmalade; it’s hard to beat. However; dabbling in lilly pillies and jaboticaba fruit the last couple of years has been thrilling and has produced some wonderful discoveries. And the mulberry season this year was one of the best ever. The mulberry and lime jelly I made was so intense in flavour it was unbelievable. My gifts to people turned into a nightmare! They were begging me to buy more of the stuff, so I’ll have to say mulberry jelly is my favourite. One thing it did confirm, there’s nothing quite like the taste of a home-made preserve.
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A huge thank you to the lovely Mariana for taking the time to do this and if anyone has any other questions that haven’t been covered here, please do ask in the comments. Hopefully I, Mariana, or someone else can jump in and answer. Jam making isn’t scary or complicated, it’s following some general rules and then you are away, ready to preserve the season.
cityhippyfarmgirl 
I make preserves a lot but there are lots of useful tips and reminders here, not to mention some delightful recipes to look up. Thanks!
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Glad to be of service FFH 🙂
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Eating fruit seasonally in winter is tough here in the UK. At the moment all we’ve got is apples and pears from store.
There are fruits coming in from abroad, but I’m trying to avoid those. Although while in Oz I happily ate mangoes from Queensland, so I need to work out where my barriers lie (translating Mid/Northern Queensland to Sydney would cover London to quite a bit of Europe).
Jamming has never really appealed, but I’m getting quite curious about bottling and thinking of buying up plums, peaches and nectarines when they come into season and bottling as many as I can for winter.
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Richard that really is a hard dilemma. Where do you draw your line? I wonder how much things get sprayed before going into the UK…tricky. On the upside, apples and pears are delicious! And perfect for bottling, so get in there I say. As a kid our pantry was always lined with bottled fruit my mum had done. I wish I had the space to be able to do that now as well.
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Oh wow. You’ve presented and set out your post so nicely Brydie. Thanks for asking to do the ‘jammin’ Q&A. It was my pleasure dear. Hope someone finds something useful in this. Mariana xx
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Thank YOU dear Mariana. It is such a handy resource to have.
xx
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Some great tips here indeed, thanks guys! I didn’t know that one about the sugar retarding the pection release….but it explains a lot!
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I think the science part of it all is quite fascinating.
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compotes is where I go to I make a fabulous jammy berry compote that sits happily in the fridge for 7 – 10 days and is added to toast, scones, yogurt and icecream. My husband complains if it runs out and I have to make it regularly to keep him happy.
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Ah, you are indeed a kind woman 🙂 Regular compote options sound like he is a lucky man.
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Talk about timing, I’ve made two batches of jam this past week – a passionfruit, nectarine and peach jam, and inspired by a taste of yours last year Brydie, a vanilla plum jam. Both turned out well, and I too used the wooden spoon test.
I’m supposing there’s no way around it, but any suggestions on how to prevent scalding globs of jam decorating my kitchen during a rapid boil? I use a large jam pan and it was only 1/4 filled but you wouldn’t think it from the state of the floor and cooker!
And also, any advice of getting fruit not to settle at the top – happened to my passionfruit and stone fruit jam despite a good stir at the end and tipping jars upside down once filled.
Great post – thanks lots.
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Hi Wendy. I rarely ‘rapid boil’ on the highest setting as is usually the recommended thing to do. One as you say, blobs spurt from out of the pot and secondly jam or marmalade can easily burn on a rapid boil. Two things I do; reduce the heat to a steady boil making sure that it doesn’t go off the boil at any time or stand by the pot and remove from the heat if the mixture begins to rise. Wait for it to drop, then place back onto the heat. Repeat if necessary. This is far more likely to happen with a jelly which isn’t weighed down with fruit, so it can easily spill over the pot if not watched.
I regularly place my wooden spoon into the centre of the pot during cooking to make sure jam or marmalade doesn’t catch. Don’t stir – just slide the spoon along the centre in a single motion and lift.
Ahhh the fruit at the top of the jar dilemma. We’ve all done it. Do you allow your jam or marmalade to sit in the pot for a good ten minutes before pouring into the jars? This allows for more evenly distributed fruit and rind. The size of your fruit matters; fruit cut up finely won’t need as much time to settle as would chunkier pieces of fruit. Also, have your sterilized jars warm and not so hot when pouring in the jam or marmalade; the fruit can’t settle as easily in a piping hot jar. For a jelly however the reverse is true. Pour immediately into hot sterilized jars; otherwise lots of air bubbles are likely to develop and become trapped in the jelly. Clarity is a good measure for a nice jelly so it’s important to get into the jar as fast as possible. Tricky, I know.
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Hi Mariana,
Thanks so for your detailed response. I’ve bought in more peaches and nectarines, and will take heed of your advice and hopefully come good with a clean kitchen and yummy jam!
I’ve always poured straight from pan to jar as was told this reduces chances of introducing more bacteria. But to let it sit for 10 mins will save on that scaldingly frantic dash to jar!
Thanks again for coming back to me. Here’s to more happy jammin’.
Wendy.
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I use that same method of sterilisation, and it works just fine for me. My mum boils the jars again after filling but my MIL does it the same as me. Wonderful post!
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Thank you Misky.
I haven’t tried that method before so I will have to give it a go.
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My mother used to make jams and I would love to make them just the way she did. It’s a skill every generation should have. Love the images in your post xx
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Thanks CL. Fruit generally makes happy snaps for me to take 🙂
Have you ever tried jamming?
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Really want to try making mango chutney. Any tips, or could you point me in the direction of a good recipe? xK
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ohhh, I don’t have a good recipe. I have done it a couple of times but nothing of note to eat. Hopefully someone else can jump in with a great recipe to point you towards.
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Oh I’m so beating myself up right now. I used to have a terrific mango chutney recipe, but I substituted the mango with paw paws as that’s what we had in abundance. I’m afraid I can’t find the handwritten loose leaf recipe written well over twenty years ago. I also haven’t made the chutney for years as our paw paw trees died from frost years ago.
Rattling my brains I recall that it was important to use green fruit, not ripe. Not sure why, but that’s what I did. I also remember the recipe contained raisins and the spices fenugreek and garam masala. Have a scan on the net and see one that appeals to you. Mango chutney recipes usually have some kind of fruit in them like cooking apples, sultanas, raisins or dates. Good luck.
***An important thing to note when making pickles, relishes or chutneys. Make sure the lids you use are non-metallic or vinegar proof. If not your lid will most likely corrode, rust and ruin all your hard work. I’ve done it so I know!
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That was a great read! The info about the pectin was really useful too 😀
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Great post. As I can’t use sugar I make use of powdered pectin which might be similar to your jam setter Brydie 🙂
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Excellent post thanks Brydie – jam-making can be intimidating to some and there’s some very useful info here.
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What a great interview! I love making jam but I must admit that usually I am using fruit that is just passed its prime because then jam seems like the best way of salvaging it. I am going to try to be better about that in future!
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really useful interview – it is ages since I tried to make jam – I love making plum jam but had a disastrous time with trying to use agar to set strawberry jam. My mum also told me that pineapple jam is hard to make because there is so much acid in the pineapple – is this because acid neutralises the effect of the pectin?
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Johanna have you tried doing the strawberry jam since?
I’ve got this fairly simple recipe here that may or may not help
https://cityhippyfarmgirl.com/2010/09/29/coconut-sourdough-with-lashings-of-strawberry-jam/ and it uses lime and lemon (although you could easily just use one of them) to set it. Pineapple jam I haven’t made for years and years so can’t remember how I did it. I should do it again though as I do love it!
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your jam looks lovely – I think this recipe had a lot less sugar than usual but it had too much agar and was like a horrid jelly. I love the sound of lime juice in strawberry jam. Must try a normal strawberry jam recipe one of these days
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This is a great guide Brydie and the pictures are fantastic
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